Israeli academics issue open letter condemning Gaza genocide
On Wednesday, 1,200 Israeli university academics and administrators issued an open letter protesting the “war crimes and even crimes against humanity” committed by the Israeli military in Gaza.
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All what you said was done. The icj despite all the evidences proving it still decided to not say definitely that there is a genocide. With their ruling no country has obligation to do their best to stop israel occupation and agression. Do you want the genocide to be admited a decade after it happened just like with the bostnian genocide declared as such after 12 years?
The icj despite all the evidences proving it still decided to not say definitely that there is a genocide.
Because they do not have the evidence necessary to rule that way. Mostly, yes, because Israel is rather uncooperative, and the ICJ can't just raid Netanyahu's office.
With their ruling no country has obligation to do their best to stop israel occupation and agression.
All countries have that obligation no matter what the ICJ rules.
Do you want the genocide to be admited a decade after it happened just like with the bostnian genocide declared as such after 12 years?
This is not about "admitting", or "strongly suspecting", or "preponderance of evidence", but "beyond reasonable doubt". Proof should only be declared when it's actually bullet-proof.
As said: Otherwise, you leave an attack surface for genocide deniers, they'll spend the next 1000 years talking about "The antisemitic conspiracy that managed to frame Israel for genocide, here, have a look, they suspended due process to come to that conclusion". Don't play into the hands of those assclowns.
They have all the bullet proof evidences, the hell are you talking about are you a zionist under cover or just stupid?
What for you would be a bulltet proof evidence?
The icj is simply politically influenced
the hell are you talking about are you a zionist under cover or just stupid?
How often do I have to say that Israel is committing genocide for people to stop calling me a zionist? It's getting tiring.
What for you would be a bulltet proof evidence?
It's abundantly clear that parts of the Israeli administration, the IDF, are guilty of genocide. Expanding that to the whole state of Israel, proving intent and not just mere incompetence at stopping rogue IDF elements, will probably require access to files and protocols Israel is withholding...
The icj is simply politically influenced
... and from the activists' perspective, a political perspective, that withholding is proof of guilt, for a court, it's more complicated. Before court, there's stricter requirements: The ICJ cannot follow the the political assessment not because it's politically influenced, but because it's not political. Because it can't make that kind of snap judgement.
When you stop claiming that the icj is ignorant of bullet proof facts that are undeniable i eill believe you are not a zionist or someone with bad logic.
What is more clear about it being state level then natanyaho the head of the israeli state compating palestinians to amalek thrn you got tbe soldiers themselves shouting the same thing, human right reports of targetting civilians, letting infants decompose and even video of shooting animals excatly like what it been said to happen in the amalek story?
Or i don't remember which one ben gvir or smotrich sating no food should enter then it is what happened. 2 months without any aid entering gaza?
Or what about the ethenic cleansing plan that was leaked?
The ICJ is very well aware of all of that IIRC, most of it was even in the opening statements.
And, as said: Politically, that kind of stuff is damning, it's proof. For the judiciary, though, things are more complicated. They have to do more legwork to do until, at some point, they also come to the same conclusion, as the genocide scholars have done, and the scholar's judgement is way more bullet-proof than the political judgement I gave a month or two in that yes, Israel is falling to fascism, yes, they're committing genocide. And the judge's judgement will be even more bullet-proof. But it's going to take time to actually prove things to that kind of high standard.
I have enough of your excuses. You just repeating again and again the same idea with different wording.
If the genocide get completed no amount of oh it was complicated would change anything.
Have a nice day.
If the genocide get completed no amount of oh it was complicated would change anything.
Agreed. But the failure is with the political reaction, not the courts. Courts aren't the police, the police is the police, and the police is asleep.