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  • Ah yes, I hadn't intended that part to be considered a continuation of the Columbus point. "Sometimes idiots like Columbus get things done that nobody else was gonna do because everybody else understands just how monumental the task actually is and are deterred from doing it" is a separate point from "often even when a project was more trouble, time and effort than bargained for, it's still worth it". My apologies for the confusion. I've edited my other comment to make it clearer on that score.

  • True, but sometimes the only way something worthwhile ever gets done in the first place is because somebody started on it without realizing how hard it would be. Columbus only discovered the New World because he'd underestimated how far away from Asia he was. Sometimes you NEED an optimistic idiot to actually get something done. And yes it's a pain in the ass for everyone else who has to clean up the mess, but often the achievement lasts a lot longer and outweighs the trouble by orders of magnitude.

  • Obama's been gone almost a decade at this point and we still have yet to pass this bill because the government always backs down at the last minute in the face of threats from the US that it would "force" US companies to not do business with us. The Dáil (parliament) supports the bill but the cabinet shoots it down. So you're not wrong to be cynical, but every time Israel commits some fresh outrage the pressure grows for the government to pass it or risk losing the next election.

  • Note: by having the USA abstain from that UN vote right at the end of his presidency, Obama made it possible (ie legal) for us to do this.

    If we were targeting Israel specifically, we would run afoul of all sorts of EU regulations since external trade policy falls under EU competency. HOWEVER, because there is a UN resolution specifically identifying the Israeli-occupied Palestinian territories as illegal occuptions under international law, it's possible for us to pass a law that doesn't specifically target Israel by name, but rather target any territory that is illegally occupied.

    If Brussels takes issue with the ban and tries to fine us for some trumped-up reason like arguing that we're exceeding our reserved competencies, that would initiate legal proceedings which would give us standing to counter and argue that we are only meeting our international obligations as outlined by the UN, and furthermore that the EU-Israel trade deal has a boilerplate clause requiring Israel to meet certain human rights criteria or the entire trade deal goes kaput.

    Basically if the EU takes us to court over this, we'll be able to force the argument to be over whether Israel is violating human rights, at which point (because judges are not politicians) the court will almost certainly side with us, which would THEN put Brussels into the legal position where they're OBLIGED to ban these goods EU-wide.

    Because Brussels knows this, they're likely to try and avoid initiating proceedings, turning a blind eye. However a lack of consequences for us would embolden other EU members to copy us. Basically it's a rock and a hard place for Brussels.

    Just pointing this out so that people see that UN votes DO matter.

  • I don't think history supports that prediction. Far more likely that America will follow the trajectory of post-USSR Russia. Not as extreme of course, but I think the normalization of open kleptocracy is already on display.