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  • That's not because they're Jewish, though, it's because they've let their ego and pride overcome their empathy for their fellow human beings.

    There's plenty of non-Jewish people who are also perfectly happy to profit off the suffering of Palestinians.

  • That's my biggest problem with people who call for revolution, violent or otherwise, no matter the locale. There's no guarantee whoever grabs power after is going to be any better. Any revolution needs plans for a transition of power before toppling a regime, or it just leads to a power vacuum that any number of opportunists are willing and able to exploit. Most of which have no better motives than those of the toppled regime.

  • Unfortunately not everyone is aware that water is wet. And often there are groups who try and convince people otherwise.

    I agree that more ideas need to be put into action that can actually accomplish change for the better, but that requires that people be informed first.

  • Your very first comment. Where you responded to someone saying people shouldn't be on either side because they're both bad, you said we should be on one side because the other is bad. That's saying one is bad, one is good, unless you're saying we should be on the side of a bad guy.

    You're right that Israel is in the wrong. They made an attack on a sovereign nation, mostly to distract from that genocide you speak of.

    That has nothing to do with Iran being in the wrong, though, which these days they regularly are. And thus we shouldn't take their claims that they're on the up and up and totally good guys at face value.

  • But that wasn't your original point, your original point was that one side was bad and the other wasn't. That was the entire crux of this argument. Are you abandoning that now to just say "Israel bad, all else is irrelevant"?

  • Not a single person in the world can fix all issues all at once. Most people can barely keep one important thing in their mind at a time. We have too many things to worry about to obsess about a group of people who have almost no power anymore. If the time comes when the pendulum swings back in their direction, sure, it's worth making it an issue... but the world is on fire and you seem to be spending an inordinate amount of time buying gasoline.

    Stop trying to fight every battle all at once, and most importantly stop trying to get everyone else to care about every battle you're obsessed with fighting. They'll just end up treating it like everything else, too much to deal with.

  • Probably because it does nothing now while children are burning to death.

    It should definitely not be forgotten... but it also shouldn't be our focus. Because if you focus on the inconsequential you get the situation we've constantly been in the last... well probably at least as long as the US has been a thing.

    If this were more like reconstruction after the US civil war, where the damage has been done and we're trying to recover from it, it might be the same. Where forgiving past mistakes causes massive consequences that are still being felt. We're not at that point yet, if we ever manage to get there.

  • Right! You can cast doubt on their honesty by pointing out that they have lied before. That's called evidence.

    However, saying they do the same thing as the other guy is not evidence of them lying. That's whataboutism and ad hominem.